There Is No Palestine!

I had some information forwarded to me by a good friend. It's a great article from the Israeli National news, Arutz Sheva.

Kuwait isn't going to like this but don't blame me! I didn't say it. I didn't tell the muslims there's no such place as "Palestine". I also didn't tell the muslims that the israelites were on the face of this earth long before the muslims were, but they were. I didn't say that Israelites predates muslims, islam by centuries but it does. 

Nope, don't blame me for posting the truth here. It's a simple thing, this history, logic stuff. History established that the Jews were around long before the muslims were. Or so suggests Abdullah Al-Hadlaq in an interview that was broadcast by Alrai TV, a Kuwaiti station on November 19. 

Abdullah Al-Hadlaq goes into far more detail during the interview but then again, it's all in the article I linked to so why repeat it.

Bottom line? "There is no occupation. There is a people returning to its promised land,” insisted Al-Hadlaq."Are you aware that the history of the Israelites is ancient, predating Islam? Therefore, we Muslims must acknowledge that the Israelites have a right to that land, and that they have not plundered it. The people who say that it was plundered are still thinking in the mentality of the 1950s and before.”


Get over it! Accept it and move on. 

IMHO

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The Balfour Declaration... Islam's Recognition of Jewish Rights?

Was the Jewish settlement in Palestine meant to be? The whole concept of acceptance of Zionists, Zionism in the Middle East, in Palestine is shrouded with assertions, accusations, denials and outright dissent.

It can be argued that the Ottoman Empire was the standard carrier for all things muslim, Islam back in the day! Even their leader of the most influential muslim authority agreed with the British that the Jews had a right to exist and had a right to a homeland in Palestine! But, as usual nothing's clear and exact when it comes to the Middle East. Their support fell to the wayside relatively soon after the decision was made by the global community to support Jewish settlements in Palestine, in the Middle East. As it's explained now, the very document that encouraged the acceptance of the Jewish settlements in Palestine by the Ottoman top brass was alleged to have been forged. And so the story continues.

In short, there appeared to be a tacit Recognition of a Jewish Nation, a home in Palestine by the muslims, the Ottoman empire at least.

This acceptance appeared to be in agreement with the Balfour Declaration. Following is some of that discussion...

"In a meeting in Istanbul on August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha gave Leopold Perlmutter, a German Jewish businessman and a personal acquaintance, an official statement on behalf of the Ottoman government. Formulated during a month-long negotiation with a 16-member Jewish delegation, headed by Perlmutter and comprising Zionists and non-Zionists from Germany, Austria and the Ottoman Empire,[3] the statement acknowledged the Jewish right to national and religious revival in Palestine. "I am happy to be able to tell you that my negotiations with delegates of several Jewish organizations some time ago have led to a real result," Talaat wrote. The statement continued:

The Council of Ministers has just decided, following my statements to the Jewish delegation, to lift all restrictive measures on Jewish immigration and settlement in Palestine. Strict orders have been given to the relevant authorities to ensure a benevolent treatment of the Jewish nation in Palestine based on complete equality with the other elements of the population.

Regarding my invitation to several Jewish organizations, I declare once again, as I already did to the Jewish delegation, my sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and settlement, for I am convinced of the importance and benefits of the settlement of Jews in Palestine for the Ottoman Empire. I am willing to put this work under the high protection of the Ottoman Empire, and to promote it by all means that are compatible with the sovereign rights of the Ottoman Empire and do not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population. It is my solid conviction that the special commission, which will be appointed to lay out a detailed project for this work, shall shortly complete its work. I will be happy to see the delegation here again thereafter to continue the conversations.[4]
In 1919...

Emir Faisal, King of Syria and Iraq, made a formal written agreement with Zionist leader Chaim Weizmann, which was drafted by T.E. Lawrence, whereby they would try to establish a peaceful relationship between Arabs and Jews in Palestine.^[173] The 3 January 1919 Faisal–Weizmann Agreement was a short-lived agreement for Arab–Jewish cooperation on the development of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.^[w] Faisal did treat Palestine differently in his presentation to the Peace Conference on 6 February 1919 saying "Palestine, for its universal character, [should be] left on one side for the mutual consideration of all parties concerned".^[175][176] The agreement was never implemented.^[x] In a subsequent letter written in English by Lawrence for Faisal's signature, he explained:

"We feel that the Arabs and Jes are cousins in race, suffering similar opperssion at the hands of powers stronger than themselves, and by a happy coincidence have been able to take the first step toward the attainment of their national ideals together. We Arabs, especially the educated among us, look with deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement... We will do our best, in so far as we are concerned, to help them through; we will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home." ^[173]

While following up on this information I found the following statement within the Palin Report relating to the very idea of Jews settling in Palestine. It's the product of a formal review of the Jewish, Palestinian situation "after the fact" that addresses the formation of a Jewish state...

"President Wilson brushed away all doubts as to what was intended from his point of view when, in March 1919, he said to the Jewish leaders in America, "I am moreover persuaded that the allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own Government and people are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundations of a Jewish Commonwealth." The late President Roosevelt declared that one of the Allies peace conditions should be [p10] that "Palestine must be made a Jewish State." Mr. Winston Churchill has spoken of a "Jewish State" and Mr. Bonar Law has talked in Parliament of "restoring Palestine to the Jews".

The angst, accusations and the indecisions continued on a global scale...

"It is said that the effect of the Balfour Declaration was to leave the Moslems and Christians dumbfounded... It is impossible to minimise the bitterness of the awakening. They considered that they were to be handed over to an oppression which they hated far more than the Turk's and were aghast at the thought of this domination... Prominent people openly talk of betrayal and that England has sold the country and received the price... Towards the Administration [the Zionists] adopted the attitude of "We want the Jewish State and we won't wait", and they did not hesitate to avail themselves of every means open to them in this country and abroad to force the hand of an Administration bound to respect the "Status Quo" and to commit it, and thereby future Administrations, to a policy not contemplated in the Balfour Declaration... What more natural than that [the Moslems and Christians] should fail to realise the immense difficulties the Administration was and is labouring under and come to the conclusion that the openly published demands of the Jews were to be granted and the guarantees in the Declaration were to become but a dead letter?" August 1920

 

Later, at another meeting in 1929-1930 Emir Faisal "finds it exceedingly strange that such a matter is attributed to him as he, at no time would consider allowing any foreign nation to share in an Arab country"

Unfortunately over time greed, hatred, anger, intolerance directed towards the Jewish community throughout the globe prevailed over practicality, acceptance, and decency. Today we have the continued shared angst and contempt that the cult of islam has directed and continues to direct against our Jewish friends and us, the Christians and other faiths of the world, or so it seems. 

It is obvious, from what I've read and witnessed that there was a time when someone from the muslim community was close to being tolerant of our Jewish friends. But historically it appears they've digressed, and became blatantly intolerant of others decades ago. They also appear to be content with their intolerance.

There's more interesting information to be found on Wikipedia , in Jewish records and elsewhere regarding the Balfour Declaration, the alleged forgeries and tampering that occurred.

In short, the Ottomans, the Arabs denied the authenticity of the agreement and pushed for removal of their jewish neighbors from Palestine but global powers at the time ensured the Jewish communities in the Middle East stayed in place, in their homeland, Palestine.

IMHO
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The Love's Dimming Amongst The Arabs

Abbas, the PLA, the Palestinians ain't feeling the love of their neighbors, their one time allies.

It seems the Palestinians are poised to bite the hand(s) that feeds them. At least Saudi Arabia's hand. The Saudis (and other mid-east nations) have been propping up the Palestinians for, well as long as I can remember and now the Palestinians are turning against their own, demanding more support, more acceptance and recognition than the Saudis (at least ) are willing to give.

So in response to Saudi Arabia's the Palestinians, via Mahmoud Abbas are demanding yet more support from Saudi Arabia and their other "allies" in Palestine's struggles to rid the region, perhaps the globe of one of our staunchest allies, Israel and the Jewish communities throughout the globe.

Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and most likely several other Arab nations have grown tired of those Palestinian folks and their lust for endless war.

But the Palestinians are thick skulled. It's going to take more effort, time and unfortunately more carnage for peace to take hold in that region, if it ever will.

IMHO

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So What Gives With The Palistinians?

Are they softening their stance on Israel or are they just posturing for some more, "unexpected", "unpredictable" mayhem.

Either way, over 400 polls suggest there's an awakening of sorts by the Palestinians.

What that "awakening" might be is the real question. Daniel Pipes reveals a myriad of possibilities in his most recent article. Over time, have the Palestinians been "coming around" to accepting the fact that Israel, Jews will maintain control of what is known as Israel for a long time coming? And given that, have the Palestinians accepted the fact that they're more than likely going to have to co-exist with the Israelis for peace to occur? Do the Palestinians truly want peace to occur? What is more important to the everyday Palestinians, peace or continued "resistance" with Israel?

And on the other side the polls suggest that Israel wants a tougher policy regarding the Palestinians. They're not all that trusting of them and quite frankly I believe that lack of trust is deserved by the Palestinians.

Some very peculiar poll results from the Palestinian side suggests that "only 12 percent of West Banker residents and 25 percent Gazans said their priority was to "establish a Palestinian state," while 49 and 40 percent, respectively, said their priority was "a good family life".

The polls tell a telling tale.

War, hatred, resistance can wear on a person. Especially when the heart, soul and mind's no longer in the game. Eventually folks come to the point where "enough is enough".

The poll results? They're most definitely not what I expected but then again, they are polls.

Let there be peace for all. The alternative's ugly.

IMHO

Abbas and the Palestinian Authority appears to be condoning the killing of Jews.

Abbas and the rest of the Palestinian Authority fatcats are having a field day making fools of the United States and those European countries who continue to fund them.

Which begs the question...

Why are we funding Abbas and the Palestinian authority? They certainly aren't our friends!

They're celebrating the slaughter of a young, a 23-year-old Israeli Border Police officer (Hadas Malka) in Jerusalem on June 16. They're calling it "an act of "heroism" which proves that the "revolution against the Zionist entity will continue until the liberation of Palestine, from the (Mediterranean) sea to the (Jordan) river."

And they're "accusing Israel of committing a "war crime"" by killing the three terrorists who killed Officer Malka and prevented a larger attack.

Abbas, his ilk, the PA... they  wanted more. 

And we continue to fund this murdering, ruthless, demonic horde of cowards.

IMHO

The Attackers cry victim when the Israelis fight back!

In the "Holy Lands" the self claimed "holier than thou" muslims are stepping up their terror against our Jewish and Christian friends. As usual the muslims, daesh are getting their cowardly arses handed to them.

Provocation and attacks leave our Jewish friends with no choice. They must defend themselves from daesh, from islam.

It's time to wake up world and realize there's never going to be any peace as long as that "religion" of peace exists. It is a cult hellbent on destroying anything and everything in its path. Like a slow growing slime mold it's going to cover the world unless something's done to contain it.

And that "something done" idea will have to be a collective action, not a singular one. Our Jewish friends need our support.

IMHO